[TiGrayMSM]

Firstly, you don’t need any snow at all to understand how the VSC works, you only need a low friction surface and we get plenty of ice in winter. The next is your failure to consider that not everybody is a “regular Joe” when it comes to VSC and the associated systems and I was involved in vehicle testing and dynamics for 17 years. I’ve been on every testing ground in Europe and you cannot test brakes without testing ABS, TRC and VSC. I’m sure i’ve forgotten more than most people know on these subjects.

In regard to the snow... I started writing that comment before you responded... so I only saw your response after my post. Obviously 6 inches of snow is going to be more than the 4cm I saw from a quick google of your location. My point was NOT to be condescending, but to say that the DSC system quirks really need to be experienced to be understood.

If you want to talk about condescending, here is an example: "I’m sure i’ve forgotten more than most people know on these subjects." Nobody cares. Seriously. Who cares how long you worked on these systems? Did you work on this one? When we order machines for our lab, they are supposed to work under certain parameters. If they do not, that machine is worthless to us. The engineers will look at the data logs and think everything is kosher until we get them in for a field visit and they see the actual problem. This was why I was asking about whether you yourself have experienced the power cut induced by DSC. Sure you don't need only deep snow to experience this, but in very snowy conditions the problem is worse.

I can tell you that the system works decently in a straight line. It will allow much more slip before cutting power (so it seems) if your steering wheel is straight. However, it seems the threshold is much lower when the wheel is turned. Once DSC cuts power on you mid corner maybe you will better understand what I am talking about. Then we could use your experience to determine how the system could be programmed to better respond to driver input and the environment.

 

[CraveSingletrack]

I’m not really concerned whether you are just showing off or plain ignorant. If you want to stay on the forum you need to get a grip of your manners.

You can call me a dick, or say I'm showing off, but nothing in my statements here has been ignorant.

 

[anchorman]

In regard to the snow... I started writing that comment before you responded... so I only saw your response after my post. Obviously 6 inches of snow is going to be more than the 4cm I saw from a quick google of your location. My point was NOT to be condescending, but to say that the DSC system quirks really need to be experienced to be understood.

If you want to talk about condescending, here is an example: "I’m sure i’ve forgotten more than most people know on these subjects." Nobody cares. Seriously. Who cares how long you worked on these systems? Did you work on this one? When we order machines for our lab, they are supposed to work under certain parameters. If they do not, that machine is worthless to us. The engineers will look at the data logs and think everything is kosher until we get them in for a field visit and they see the actual problem. This was why I was asking about whether you yourself have experienced the power cut induced by DSC. Sure you don't need only deep snow to experience this, but in very snowy conditions the problem is worse.

I can tell you that the system works decently in a straight line. It will allow much more slip before cutting power (so it seems) if your steering wheel is straight. However, it seems the threshold is much lower when the wheel is turned. Once DSC cuts power on you mid corner maybe you will better understand what I am talking about. Then we could use your experience to determine how the system could be programmed to better respond to driver input and the environment.

The DSC doesn’t really do much in a straight line, it uses inertia sensors to apply a pre mapped set of responses when things go wrong in turns. It’s the TRC that determines what happens in a straight line. The DSC programming can’t be changed as far as I know. The European CX-3 doesn’t have the option either. On my old RAV4 you could press and hold the TRC button to disable the VSC. I’m not sure you still can because test have shown it is safer to leave it on.

 

[anchorman]

You can call me a dick, or say I'm showing off, but nothing in my statements here has been ignorant.

Referring to people as old codgers is not really any better than calling somebody dense.

I don’t intend going round in circles with you. Your contributions will be welcome as long as you follow the guidelines. Final warning.

 

[CraveSingletrack]

Referring to people as old codgers is not really any better than calling somebody dense.

I don’t intend going round in circles with you. Your contributions will be welcome as long as you follow the guidelines. Final warning.

A bit of the pot calling the kettle black here Ron Burgandy. You can make comments like, "I’m sure i’ve forgotten more than most people know", or infer that my comments are born from ignorance, but if I use the word dense, or joke about people being "old codgers" I'm crossing the line. And then a final warning based on my refuting your claims of ignorance? Yeah okay...

 

[anchorman]

A bit of the pot calling the kettle black here Ron Burgandy. You can make comments like, "I’m sure i’ve forgotten more than most people know", or infer that my comments are born from ignorance, but if I use the word dense, or joke about people being "old codgers" I'm crossing the line. And then a final warning based on my refuting your claims of ignorance? Yeah okay...

That was in response to TI saying we didn’t get enough snow for me to comment on how the DSC behaved. It doesn’t directly insult anybody and it does allow for those that know more than me. I accept I don’t know everything.

Fair enough, point taken, let’s just move on.

 

[bcbishop]

So i have come back to this thread one year later hoping for some magical way to disable stability control to determine that after everyone's "two sense" we cannot disable the stability control on our US/Canadian CX3`s....lol

All we wanted to know.

 

[CraveSingletrack]

So i have come back to this thread one year later hoping for some magical way to disable stability control to determine that after everyone's "two sense" we cannot disable the stability control on our US/Canadian CX3`s....lol

All we wanted to know.

We ended up just buying an Audi instead of a CX3. <shrug>

 

[Nix0r]

no one came with a solution for this yet, I assume!? i would also be interested...

 

[Tyler Marston]

I figured it out. In the fuse box under the hood pull the abs dsc fuse. It says 30a in picture but mine was a 50a. It shows you on the underside of the fuse box cover what one it is anyway. Pull that and throw it in your glove box until summer. My abs light,stability light,park brake light, and front braking assist light are all on. You cant turn traction control off bc it's already off now so the light for that isn't on. I tried the car in snow and it rips donuts and drifts now. Use electrical tape to cover lights if they bug you. Hope this helps.

 

[ghmpm]

Finally we can put this to bed... In my opinion, disabling one or more safety features on a vehicle shouldn't be posted on a public forum.

 

[CraveSingletrack]

Finally we can put this to bed... In my opinion, disabling one or more safety features on a vehicle shouldn't be posted on a public forum.

OK boomer

 

[Jroper]

OK boomer

Are you not able to disagree without being rude?

 

[CraveSingletrack]

Are you not able to disagree without being rude?

At this point the subject of whether or not someone should disable stability control has been discussed at length, with many valid reasons for why someone would want to have been given. So you adding your "opinion" adds nothing really to the discussion.

That aside, if you made a comment about how nobody should disable DSC on a forum for a performance based platform, you'd get a myriad of responses laughing at you/mocking you. It's literally a "basic" thing on most performance platforms, hell in both our Audi and iour Jeep I can disable it right through the dash.

 

[George08]

I figured it out. In the fuse box under the hood pull the abs dsc fuse. It says 30a in picture but mine was a 50a. It shows you on the underside of the fuse box cover what one it is anyway. Pull that and throw it in your glove box until summer. My abs light,stability light,park brake light, and front braking assist light are all on. You cant turn traction control off bc it's already off now so the light for that isn't on. I tried the car in snow and it rips donuts and drifts now. Use electrical tape to cover lights if they bug you. Hope this helps.

I did this to my mazda too and it worked, the steering became harder like the power steering wasn’t working as much as before and the check engine light turned on too. The traction was basically 50-50 and it felt very nice, very sporty and somehow stable... until you brutally accelerate and steer...
My question now is if someone know why the steering got harder and why the check engine came in.

 

[broncoman]

If your going to just a parking lot, u can pull fuse 29 which is the dsc/abs i wouldn’t do this while driving on roads but this is how..

 

[akonsgreenery]

Hey yall new cx 3 owner here I'll now be actively viewing this page but has anyone tried to pull the fuse if they have the option on their model ?