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I posted in the general discussion forum about this issue last week. They put in a new transmission for the very issue you're talking about and finished it yesterday.

So I live an hour away from the dealership. Since I got it home yesterday, it has been leaking oil. Now I have to take it back tomorrow.

If enough people have the same transmission issue as being discussed in this thread, a class action lawsuit could be a remedy. I have not heard about any TSBs related to this problem.
 

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Not sure if it's related, but I've noticed a slight intermittent jerk when lifting off the brake in drive. No unusual revs happening or any power delay, but resuming from a stop is met with a little "bump" once in a while. Seems to happen more often on hills, though still far from constant. Keeping an eye on it.

I've experienced similar a couple times. 1500 Miles on my Touring AWD.
 

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so long CX-3 fans. Mazda came to an agreement with me and took back my CX-3 in exchange for a new CX-5 Touring (w/Nav) at no additional cost to me.

I hope this model had better quality control than the CX-3.

cya!
 

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so long CX-3 fans. Mazda came to an agreement with me and took back my CX-3 in exchange for a new CX-5 Touring (w/Nav) at no additional cost to me.

I hope this model had better quality control than the CX-3.

cya!
Why cya? You don’t have to go!!! This is not because I have a CX-3 but I would be interested in how for instance, somebody changing from a CX-3 to a Ford or anything else would rate their choice - good points and bad.
 

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I'm at 12,000 kms.

So far the only minor annoyances of the transmission are:

1. A slight jerk when releasing the brake from a stop.

2. Sometimes when the transmission shifts from 1st to 2nd gear, there is a crunchy sound that lasts for about a second. It tends to happen when the car has not warmed up yet

3. Sometimes when travelling at low speeds. About 5-10 km/h . The car will jerk back and forth. It's very mild.

These are just little annoyances. So far the transmission has been good.
 

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Why cya? You don’t have to go!!! This is not because I have a CX-3 but I would be interested in how for instance, somebody changing from a CX-3 to a Ford or anything else would rate their choice - good points and bad.
Anchorman, you have cx3, or you had cx3 !? :)
Because if you have had it you still have it...in your sig...
 

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Oh right, well I have recorded elsewhere that the CX-5 is now with me. Here it is as delivered, the same colour and spec as the CX-5;



And you know I can't resist shodding up with winter tyres but when I bought these wheels off eBay, the tyres were only about half worn so to help me justify the cost, I thought I'd run off the original Mazda Yokos;



What is worse than the CX-3?

Well, the obvious things, it takes up more space in the garage and has much more area to satisfy my obsession with washing - sometimes three times a week (err, or more). It doesn't look as nice from any angle, inside or out. Then again, nothing does. The dash isn't as clear to read. The CX-3 has the latest technology but the CX-5 uses an older display which is not as bright.

What is better than the CX-3?

First of all, let me reiterate this space thing. I don't get it when people buy a CX-3 then complain about the space. I knew full well before I bought it what the score was. At the time it didn't matter and we (anchorwoman and myself) thought it would be just us most of the time but in fact, things changed and it turns out it wasn't going to work for us. I normally sit right back so with passengers I had to scoot right forward where I wasn't comfortable driving. The problem was then compounded by my personal major criticism of the CX-3 and something that wasn't so apparent during a test drive, for me, the suspension was too soft and highlighted the fact it is based on a 2 and not a 3. I know some of you like the suspension but when five up, the car becomes wallowy and a tad unnerving. Additionally, on my way to work, I have to negotiate a long stretch of speed bumps - big ones that required me to crawl over them to save bottoming out and now I'm back to just driving normally like I did in previous RAV4s. They don't flinch. And my last critism of the CX-3 was the over bolstering of the seat. It's just another of my peculiarities that I don't like bucket type seats. I did know full well when I bought it but thought/hoped that I would get used to it. I did like the suede panels. The CX-5 is all leather which is not as nice to sit on and doesn't get as warm as quickly as the CX-3 did in winter.

Right, that addresses my three major critisms that provoked the change. Now I'll cover some of the benefits of the CX-5, some obvious, some less so. There is no doubt when you consider the difference in list price, at least in the UK, you get an awful lot more car for your money. While the gearbox and the rear diff/AWD unit are identical, the amount of sheet metal, engine, suspension, wheels etc, seem to outweigh that cost difference. It should cost a lot more or the CX-3 should cost a lot less. Maybe in future revisions, the detail in the CX-3 will improve; there are all illuminated window switches, all auto up/down window switches, photochromic interior mirror as standard. There are also twin horns. Obviously, the storage issue is resolved through physical size and there is a cavernous storage box, wide console and electronic parking brake - another expensive addition that the CX-3 was crying out for in order to make storage space on the narrow console. The LED headlights are slightly different and certainly have a much longer range. On the CX-3, they physically move to look round corners but on the CX-5, it has 24 main beam LEDs (12 on each side) which respond to the windshield mounted sensor to light up different areas of the road. It still looks round corners but by altering which LEDs are lit. It also has 3 side mounted LEDs on each side that creat a floodlit effect when stood at a junction to illuminate pedestrians and cyclists etc. I thought these headlights would be gimmicky but it's worth going out in the dark just to watch what they are up to. Not only do they auto dip but they can just dip one or either side of a car you are following - quite amazing! There is a power socket in the boot/trunk which solves the rear camera power supply but for any of you contemplating a rear camera, here's a tip. Do not run the feed through the right hand side rubber gaiter. I did on the CX-3 and this CX-5 and I've completely screwed the reception of both the DAB and conventional radio. I thought it was poor on the CX-3 and when I got this 5, it was wonderful by comparison and could pick up weak stations out in the sticks where I live. That is until I fed the power supply through the same gaiter as the antenna then it was back to only getting a few of the strongest stations. There must be a field set up that it doesn't like. That is a job for another day, I will run 12v all the way round to the other gaiter and in through the left side and then add an accessory socket inside the door (my camera has the 12v to 5v dropper inside the plug so I can't snip it off). The facia is nice, it feels soft and rubbery and the infotainment screen is embedded in the dash which anchorwoman prefers. The auto A/C is superb. I didn't mind the knobs in the 3 but there are more levels of control in the 5 and I'm pleased to report that it is just as unbelievably hot as the 3. I can make my shoes smell like they are melting.

One last thing. The rear wiper is big enough that it wipes a big area and while I used to leave the rear wiper on intermittent on the 3 for the sake of the rear camera, this 5 hardly ever gets wet. It doesn't suffer from immediately getting filthy as soon as the road is wet, let alone raining. Using the rear washer just cleans the glass and doesn't require follow up wipes to clear water left dribbling down. Just little things but they appeal to a fusspot like me.

Actually, another last thing. It pulls like a train. There is a 150 and a 175 option of diesels in the UK of which I have the latter and it can deliver 420Nm of torque. It is quite capable of pushing you back in the seat but for normal driving, light throttle makes good progress and quite good fuel economy. To give you some idea, the 2.5G engine has 185 ft/lbs of torque and the 2.2D has 310 ft/lbs.

I guess I'd better cut and paste this review into its own thread or it is actually off topic. Sorry to ramble.
 

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Oh right, well I have recorded elsewhere that the CX-5 is now with me. Here it is as delivered, the same colour and spec as the CX-5;



And you know I can't resist shodding up with winter tyres but when I bought these wheels off eBay, the tyres were only about half worn so to help me justify the cost, I thought I'd run off the original Mazda Yokos;



What is worse than the CX-3?

Well, the obvious things, it takes up more space in the garage and has much more area to satisfy my obsession with washing - sometimes three times a week (err, or more). It doesn't look as nice from any angle, inside or out. Then again, nothing does. The dash isn't as clear to read. The CX-3 has the latest technology but the CX-5 uses an older display which is not as bright.

What is better than the CX-3?

First of all, let me reiterate this space thing. I don't get it when people buy a CX-3 then complain about the space. I knew full well before I bought it what the score was. At the time it didn't matter and we (anchorwoman and myself) thought it would be just us most of the time but in fact, things changed and it turns out it wasn't going to work for us. I normally sit right back so with passengers I had to scoot right forward where I wasn't comfortable driving. The problem was then compounded by my personal major criticism of the CX-3 and something that wasn't so apparent during a test drive, for me, the suspension was too soft and highlighted the fact it is based on a 2 and not a 3. I know some of you like the suspension but when five up, the car becomes wallowy and a tad unnerving. Additionally, on my way to work, I have to negotiate a long stretch of speed bumps - big ones that required me to crawl over them to save bottoming out and now I'm back to just driving normally like I did in previous RAV4s. They don't flinch. And my last critism of the CX-3 was the over bolstering of the seat. It's just another of my peculiarities that I don't like bucket type seats. I did know full well when I bought it but thought/hoped that I would get used to it. I did like the suede panels. The CX-5 is all leather which is not as nice to sit on and doesn't get as warm as quickly as the CX-3 did in winter.

Right, that addresses my three major critisms that provoked the change. Now I'll cover some of the benefits of the CX-5, some obvious, some less so. There is no doubt when you consider the difference in list price, at least in the UK, you get an awful lot more car for your money. While the gearbox and the rear diff/AWD unit are identical, the amount of sheet metal, engine, suspension, wheels etc, seem to outweigh that cost difference. It should cost a lot more or the CX-3 should cost a lot less. Maybe in future revisions, the detail in the CX-3 will improve; there are all illuminated window switches, all auto up/down window switches, photochromic interior mirror as standard. There are also twin horns. Obviously, the storage issue is resolved through physical size and there is a cavernous storage box, wide console and electronic parking brake - another expensive addition that the CX-3 was crying out for in order to make storage space on the narrow console. The LED headlights are slightly different and certainly have a much longer range. On the CX-3, they physically move to look round corners but on the CX-5, it has 24 main beam LEDs (12 on each side) which respond to the windshield mounted sensor to light up different areas of the road. It still looks round corners but by altering which LEDs are lit. It also has 3 side mounted LEDs on each side that creat a floodlit effect when stood at a junction to illuminate pedestrians and cyclists etc. I thought these headlights would be gimmicky but it's worth going out in the dark just to watch what they are up to. Not only do they auto dip but they can just dip one or either side of a car you are following - quite amazing! There is a power socket in the boot/trunk which solves the rear camera power supply but for any of you contemplating a rear camera, here's a tip. Do not run the feed through the right hand side rubber gaiter. I did on the CX-3 and this CX-5 and I've completely screwed the reception of both the DAB and conventional radio. I thought it was poor on the CX-3 and when I got this 5, it was wonderful by comparison and could pick up weak stations out in the sticks where I live. That is until I fed the power supply through the same gaiter as the antenna then it was back to only getting a few of the strongest stations. There must be a field set up that it doesn't like. That is a job for another day, I will run 12v all the way round to the other gaiter and in through the left side and then add an accessory socket inside the door (my camera has the 12v to 5v dropper inside the plug so I can't snip it off). The facia is nice, it feels soft and rubbery and the infotainment screen is embedded in the dash which anchorwoman prefers. The auto A/C is superb. I didn't mind the knobs in the 3 but there are more levels of control in the 5 and I'm pleased to report that it is just as unbelievably hot as the 3. I can make my shoes smell like they are melting.

One last thing. The rear wiper is big enough that it wipes a big area and while I used to leave the rear wiper on intermittent on the 3 for the sake of the rear camera, this 5 hardly ever gets wet. It doesn't suffer from immediately getting filthy as soon as the road is wet, let alone raining. Using the rear washer just cleans the glass and doesn't require follow up wipes to clear water left dribbling down. Just little things but they appeal to a fusspot like me.

Actually, another last thing. It pulls like a train. There is a 150 and a 175 option of diesels in the UK of which I have the latter and it can deliver 420Nm of torque. It is quite capable of pushing you back in the seat but for normal driving, light throttle makes good progress and quite good fuel economy. To give you some idea, the 2.5G engine has 185 ft/lbs of torque and the 2.2D has 310 ft/lbs.

I guess I'd better cut and paste this review into its own thread or it is actually off topic. Sorry to ramble.
Well, I did ask for a report on the CX-5 and you really delivered..thanks.

Now for a few comments: I have to agree about the size thing of the CX-3. Why complain AFTER you buy one (do your research guys...BEFORE buying).

About the heating. Must admit I'm not into the now, how do you put it "I can make my shoes smell like they are melting" but, to each his own :)) It was only in the last few days that we used our CX-3 heater...agree it's hot (lovely, as she who must be obeyed said). And lastly, the hatch on the CX-3 gets dirty (I think it gets dirty just by looking at it) :))

Anyway, thanks again for your report.
 

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Hey guys, thought I'd throw my hat into the "f*ck my transmission" ring. Dropped it off at the dealer last night. Basically I explained it as "you know how when you're learning to drive a stick and can't get into first? And you're revving the engine and then get nervous and dump the clutch and you jerk a bunch and peel wheels?? Yeah, it's like my car is learning how to drive a manual when I go from reverse to drive."

Sorry I'm not technical about this kind of stuff, but that's seriously exactly what's going on in super simple terms. Hopefully they can get it fixed (it has like 15k miles on it) but I'm pretty sure I'm gonna go back to being a Honda-douche after this :(
 

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Sorry to hear that. Hopefully they can fix it or maybe you also will get a new cx5 like someone here in this forum did!
Please report back here when you get an answer from the dealer.
 

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Hey guys, thought I'd throw my hat into the "f*ck my transmission" ring. Dropped it off at the dealer last night. Basically I explained it as "you know how when you're learning to drive a stick and can't get into first? And you're revving the engine and then get nervous and dump the clutch and you jerk a bunch and peel wheels?? Yeah, it's like my car is learning how to drive a manual when I go from reverse to drive."

Sorry I'm not technical about this kind of stuff, but that's seriously exactly what's going on in super simple terms. Hopefully they can get it fixed (it has like 15k miles on it) but I'm pretty sure I'm gonna go back to being a Honda-douche after this :(
Only asking but do you come to a complete stand between changing fron forward to reverse and vice versa?
 

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Well, I did ask for a report on the CX-5 and you really delivered..thanks.

Now for a few comments: I have to agree about the size thing of the CX-3. Why complain AFTER you buy one (do your research guys...BEFORE buying).

About the heating. Must admit I'm not into the now, how do you put it "I can make my shoes smell like they are melting" but, to each his own :)) It was only in the last few days that we used our CX-3 heater...agree it's hot (lovely, as she who must be obeyed said). And lastly, the hatch on the CX-3 gets dirty (I think it gets dirty just by looking at it) :))

Anyway, thanks again for your report.
I saw in one of your posts that you paid (what I consider) an outrageous price to get the soul red colour. Did you get hit with the same on the shift to the CX-5? (hah, I nearly said upgrade...wash my mouth out). No seriously, I believe that's a rip off. We, have to pay an extra $230 approx (us$170...to save complaints lol) for the soul red. All other colours are "no charge". I thought at first this extra cost for the soul red was due to amount of sun we get (red cars don't fare well in it), and the soul red was developed to cater (deluded fool that I am).
 

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I saw in one of your posts that you paid (what I consider) an outrageous price to get the sole red colour. Did you get hit with the same on the shift to the CX-5? (hah, I nearly said upgrade...wash my mouth out). No seriously, I believe that's a rip off. We, have to pay an extra $230 approx (us$170...to save complaints lol) for the sole red. All other colours are "no charge". I thought at first this extra cost for the sole red was due to amount of sun we get (red cars don't fare well in it), and the sole red was developed to cater (deluded fool that I am).
I didn't expect that my change from a CX-3 to a CX-5 would sit very well with all owners but what's done is done and while there are things I liked about the 3, there were things I like better with the 5. I thought I'd tried to stress the fact that I was under no illusion about the size of the CX-3 when I bought it. I'm sure I said that I wasn't forced, misled or coerced into buying it, indeed the compact size was part of the attraction. The trunk is small but so what?

Well like I said, I got it wrong. I thought we could manage with it but I was partly consumed by the pure beauty of the thing and partly took the dimensions of the RAV I had previously for granted. I'm sure I also said that our circumstances have changed since buying the car and we have found ourselves, for reasons I won't go into, needing to carry rear seat passengers and their luggage more often than we previously anticipated. I don't need to be accused of not doing my homework or "having my nose rubbed in it". While it could have cost more to make the change, I certainly did lose money and I wasted money in throwing underbody wax and accessories that couldn't be removed at it. I also lost money in winter wheels and a spacesaver kit. Silly me.

And yes, the red paint cost me more than standard metallic again. In some countries in Europe, the price is included or wrapped up in the Mazda profit but in the UK, we nearly always pay for metallic paint unless you get to very exclusive cars. It cost more to apply although these days I suspect far less than they charge us - it's just another opportunity for them by upholding a tradition from the days it did cost more. The Soul Red as it happens does cost more to apply. The car has to stay in the booth for additional coats of paint/ lacquer? - whatever.

However. The money and possessions I have are shared with my wife and she wanted Soul Red. I could have had a grey one that they had in stock for a further £1000 discount which would have done but my wife preferred red so I went and paid extra for another car to be shipped across the North Sea from the European import centre and extra on top of extra for the red paint.

Does that answer your question?

http://www.mazda.com/en/innovation/mazda-stories/engineers/soulred/
 

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No worries, that's the first thing my dad asked (he's a mechanic, something about shift inhibit??). I'm actually not sure! I've never paid attention to it before. Now that I'm cognizant that might have been my problem I've been paying attention and full stopping in the loaner, lol. So I really could have been trying to engage before it was in gear I suppose.

The dealer is pulling the data from my car to send to a field engineer. I'm gonna feel real dumb, and relieved, if that was the problem.
 

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No worries, that's the first thing my dad asked (he's a mechanic, something about shift inhibit??). I'm actually not sure! I've never paid attention to it before. Now that I'm cognizant that might have been my problem I've been paying attention and full stopping in the loaner, lol. So I really could have been trying to engage before it was in gear I suppose.

The dealer is pulling the data from my car to send to a field engineer. I'm gonna feel real dumb, and relieved, if that was the problem.
The problem is that Mazda are going to be spending a lot of money trying to understand this problem and if they can point the reason back at user error it might give them grounds to reject a warranty claim. I let somebody drive mine not long ago and he shifted from forward to reverse while still moving albeit at a very low speed - a very accomplished and fluid movement but might be the kiss of death. I don't know without studying the pdf's if there is a speed related shift inhibitor but if there is, it might still be possible to cheat it if the speed is low enough. It's not hard to imagine the load that goes through the box in changing direction, possibly more than a full throttle burnout.

In a while we will get some answers and changes will come in either the box design and/or the instructions if something is found to provoke a failure. It might not be in the remotest bit relevant but until we know I would recommend to all that extreme car is taken to make sure the vehicle is at a dead stop before shifting direction.
 

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I didn't expect that my change from a CX-3 to a CX-5 would sit very well with all owners but what's done is done and while there are things I liked about the 3, there were things I like better with the 5. I thought I'd tried to stress the fact that I was under no illusion about the size of the CX-3 when I bought it. I'm sure I said that I wasn't forced, misled or coerced into buying it, indeed the compact size was part of the attraction. The trunk is small but so what?

Well like I said, I got it wrong. I thought we could manage with it but I was partly consumed by the pure beauty of the thing and partly took the dimensions of the RAV I had previously for granted. I'm sure I also said that our circumstances have changed since buying the car and we have found ourselves, for reasons I won't go into, needing to carry rear seat passengers and their luggage more often than we previously anticipated. I don't need to be accused of not doing my homework or "having my nose rubbed in it". While it could have cost more to make the change, I certainly did lose money and I wasted money in throwing underbody wax and accessories that couldn't be removed at it. I also lost money in winter wheels and a spacesaver kit. Silly me.

And yes, the red paint cost me more than standard metallic again. In some countries in Europe, the price is included or wrapped up in the Mazda profit but in the UK, we nearly always pay for metallic paint unless you get to very exclusive cars. It cost more to apply although these days I suspect far less than they charge us - it's just another opportunity for them by upholding a tradition from the days it did cost more. The Soul Red as it happens does cost more to apply. The car has to stay in the booth for additional coats of paint/ lacquer? - whatever.

However. The money and possessions I have are shared with my wife and she wanted Soul Red. I could have had a grey one that they had in stock for a further £1000 discount which would have done but my wife preferred red so I went and paid extra for another car to be shipped across the North Sea from the European import centre and extra on top of extra for the red paint.

Does that answer your question?

MAZDA: Soul Red: Breathtakingly Beautiful but Gruelingly Challenging | We are Engineers
Anchorman. I must apologise if I inferred that you did not "do your homework" or try to "have your nose rubbed in it". No, you'd be the last person on this forum that could be accused of that. At no time did I hear you criticise the CX-3 for being too small. I only heard that your needs had changed.

I was just trying to add a bit of humour into my post by saying what I said ( and failed).

Actually, I think the CX-5 is an ideal size overall; to big for my use though.

So, sorry if I offended.

I was interested in your other comment such as:

"The Soul Red as it happens does cost more to apply. The car has to stay in the booth for additional coats of paint/ lacquer?"

Can you expand on that statement?
 

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Fair enough buddy. I thought there were undertones of something else and I apologise for that. I really liked most things about the CX-3 and it felt painful to admit getting it wrong and wasting time, money and effort on it. At least somebody got a very well looked after car ;-). By the way, I usually do run with a joke but perhaps I was a bit more sensitive than usual on that one.

So, paint. Well the attached link above shows the background to the paint and the process and their reasoning behind choosing it for a production car. They had to modify the paint booth to add the additional layers.

Maybe the list price here is accurate and they do carve it back but I'm pretty sure even base colour coats (which we don't pay extra for) so who knows.

I found this clip on YouTube where a painter applies 11 coats to get a good match. Two are plastic primer but it would still be 9 on steel but that is why the bumpers always look a slightly different shade.

https://youtu.be/O3RSAMkqgYI
 
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