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Someone responded on a FB post I made about lifting the CX-3. They had successfully lifted theirs using these springs. Looks like I know what I'll be doing next time I have a few bucks.

AWD (I think): https://www.blackhawkjapan.com/products/tanabe-dk5awuk
FWD (I think): https://www.blackhawkjapan.com/products/tanabe-dk5fwuk
No Idea: https://www.blackhawkjapan.com/products/tanabe-dkefwuk

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So Im glad you posted this because i was actually considering lifting it by using springs from another car/suv. In reality all you would need is just the rear springs since the front strut setup from this thread keeps stock configuration and rebound as the lift spacer is installed completely on top of the unit and attached with longer bolts/nuts. The rear shocks also will benefit from the spacers since the same thing applies, ie stock rebound with the height difference made up in the spacer on top without needing specialized and often pricey/proprietary parts.

Which brings us to the issue of the spring. I really want to see how the rear spring was installed. You cant fit a spring compressor in the rear so im curious how they got that to work and also I would want to know how much it flexes if any since as you can probably see a few pictures back, the higher you go the more of a curve the mounting points would cast on the spring itself.

If you do end up getting these please let us know how it went

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It looks pretty cool. 30mm is all I want. To bad I already bought tires, but next time I'll buy them with more sidewall.
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Someone responded on a FB post I made about lifting the CX-3. They had successfully lifted theirs using these springs. Looks like I know what I'll be doing next time I have a few bucks.

AWD (I think): https://www.blackhawkjapan.com/products/tanabe-dk5awuk
FWD (I think): https://www.blackhawkjapan.com/products/tanabe-dk5fwuk
No Idea: https://www.blackhawkjapan.com/products/tanabe-dkefwuk

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I'm going to diverge this post @WebDevDan , I see you have the LED/Lights in the rear bumper (where it is usually reflectors on the CX-3). Any Instuctions on how you installed this - Hardware and the Wiring, been contemplating this, but never came across any decent guide.

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Someone responded on a FB post I made about lifting the CX-3. They had successfully lifted theirs using these springs. Looks like I know what I'll be doing next time I have a few bucks.

AWD (I think): https://www.blackhawkjapan.com/products/tanabe-dk5awuk
FWD (I think): https://www.blackhawkjapan.com/products/tanabe-dk5fwuk
No Idea: https://www.blackhawkjapan.com/products/tanabe-dkefwuk

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I'm going to diverge this post @WebDevDan , I see you have the LED/Lights in the rear bumper (where it is usually reflectors on the CX-3). Any Instuctions on how you installed this - Hardware and the Wiring, been contemplating this, but never came across any decent guide.

Thanks
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So Im glad you posted this because i was actually considering lifting it by using springs from another car/suv. In reality all you would need is just the rear springs since the front strut setup from this thread keeps stock configuration and rebound as the lift spacer is installed completely on top of the unit and attached with longer bolts/nuts. The rear shocks also will benefit from the spacers since the same thing applies, ie stock rebound with the height difference made up in the spacer on top without needing specialized and often pricey/proprietary parts.

Which brings us to the issue of the spring. I really want to see how the rear spring was installed. You cant fit a spring compressor in the rear so im curious how they got that to work and also I would want to know how much it flexes if any since as you can probably see a few pictures back, the higher you go the more of a curve the mounting points would cast on the spring itself.

If you do end up getting these please let us know how it went
So to maintain ride quality you'd basically want spacers on top of the front tower and (theoretically) springs + extenders in the rear? Jeez, sounds exactly like one of the old budget lifts they used to make for Jeeps. I was talking to my saleslady-now-friend who is somewhat knowledgeable about the rear suspension on these things and she basically said you'd have to drop whole torsion beam setup to get the springs crammed in there unless you had massive cojones and wanted to fool around with some widowmaker compressors. Pretty unfortunate. Might turn a 1-day job into a 2-day job. We'll see what happens as I start reaching warranty expiration. EDIT - If I had lots of money to throw at things, it looks like this mighty fine compressor would fit in there. Not dropping an additional $700 though. EDIT2: Or this thing - as long as the ass end is hanging off the bottom it looks like it should fit, just looking at the lowering spring install video. They got a LOT of compression out of it:

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So to maintain ride quality you'd basically want spacers on top of the front tower and (theoretically) springs + extenders in the rear? Jeez, sounds exactly like one of the old budget lifts they used to make for Jeeps. I was talking to my saleslady-now-friend who is somewhat knowledgeable about the rear suspension on these things and she basically said you'd have to drop whole torsion beam setup to get the springs crammed in there unless you had massive cojones and wanted to fool around with some widowmaker compressors. Pretty unfortunate. Might turn a 1-day job into a 2-day job. We'll see what happens as I start reaching warranty expiration. EDIT - If I had lots of money to throw at things, it looks like this mighty fine compressor would fit in there. Not dropping an additional $700 though. EDIT2: Or this thing - as long as the ass end is hanging off the bottom it looks like it should fit, just looking at the lowering spring install video. They got a LOT of compression out of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_V-3oD4G4s
Thats why Im really curious as to how they installed it. Regular spring compressors are too bulky so you have to use some weird thinner types which are exponentially more dangerous ironically. The one extreme way to install it without compressors would be to completely detach the torsion beam suspension from the car itself so it is disconnected entirely and drops vertically instead of hinge/angleing downward but this is getting into the area of you need the car on a shop lift and not something thats diy at home. The angle of the base of the spring to the top mount is what I am most concerned about since the spacers on the spring was way to dangerous with a high risk of slippage. Its probably alot more 'stable' once the weight of the vehicle is on the car but during the install process the flex on the spring is really bad when the rear is dropped to its limit.

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Just saw the tools in the link and its the same issue as the other spring compressors, there is no space around the base of the spring mount to properly fit the compressors. Even though the arms are skinnier you would not be able to SAFELY access the pole part which you need to turn to compress because of the wise base plate unless you angle it which then runs into other issues. *Check out post 33 on page 4 for reference*

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**Awkward research post**

So Ive been occasionally looking into more information on these springs and I keep stumbling upon this site,google translate on the page will be needed.
The only issue here is they didnt specify what type cx3 they have and what spec spring lift they ordered.

(installed look)
https://minkara.carview.co.jp/userid...947/parts.aspx

(some what of a step/progress comparison but they took terrible shots imo)
https://minkara.carview.co.jp/userid...0228/note.aspx

(another installed comparison)
https://minkara.carview.co.jp/userid...517/parts.aspx



according to this tanabe had developed this since 2016 which breaks my heart that it hasent made its way here or is known yet until basically when webdevdan posted it
(also comparison shots but again ruined since they zoom out when taking the new shot which doesnt show full change from original)
https://ameblo.jp/rdtanabe/entry-12187221717.html

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Also a update for anyone contemplating this before I am able to finish it by next spring,

*UPDATE: there is a possibility the spring in the link below will not fit due to awd/fwd differences found in next post*
https://www.blackhawkjapan.com/products/tanabe-dkefwuk
This seems to be the only link for a 2.0 skyactive NA spring set although it says its for a fwd cx-3. The other 2 posted were for diesel version which I have no information on if the parts or rear suspension area differs.

Checking the dkefw code I came across this video of i guess an exhaust test? But then shows the engine which is similar to my US cx-3 so at least I can confirm this is not the code for a diesel vehicle.
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Unfortunatly between the awd and fwd model there *MIGHT* be a difference (with regards to the rear spring anyways).
On this site for oem mazda parts in the US, it lists 2 part numbers for the rear spring
- D10J-28-011A for 2wd models
- D10J-28-011B for awd models
Im not sure what the difference is with regards to these springs but something that might be need a little more looking into for us with awd models.
Source: https://www.mazdanyparts.com/v-2016-...ear-suspension

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There might be an issue here since I figured I would look into US companies that offer lowering springs and to see if there was a difference between awd/fwd versions. Apparantly there is a difference which makes springs incompatible according to them.


In the faq section for lowersprings for AWD from corksport
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Q: Will this fit the fwd as well?
A: They do not. Submit a product request and we can take a look at getting something made for the 2wd - .
"
https://corksport.com/cx3-lowering-springs.html


The question now becomes will the 1.5(?)diesel awd variant rear springs work with the 2.0 na awd

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