Engine Oil Additive - Mazda CX3 Forum
User Tag List

 10Likes
  • 3 Post By Dean
  • 4 Post By Snoogie
  • 1 Post By NotAPreppie
  • 2 Post By anchorman
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 9 Old 10-03-2016, 09:07 PM Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Boston, MA USA
Posts: 7
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Question Engine Oil Additive

So I took my CX3 to a dealer service center for its 1st oil change last week (2200 miles/6 months) using synthetic oil. I was surprised that the dealer recommended using an engine oil additive (BG MOA). I've read that these additives are useless since the synthetic oil already has the same additives. Is this correct? It's only $25 but I'm wondering if should I even trust this dealer - maybe they frequently try to sell unnecessary products and repairs. Or maybe selling engine oil additives is just a standard practice. Let me know what you think.

2016 CX3 Sport
Boston, MA USA
mikm27 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 9 Old 10-03-2016, 09:24 PM
Senior Member
 
Dean's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 303
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 84 Post(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikm27 View Post
So I took my CX3 to a dealer service center for its 1st oil change last week (2200 miles/6 months) using synthetic oil. I was surprised that the dealer recommended using an engine oil additive (BG MOA). I've read that these additives are useless since the synthetic oil already has the same additives. Is this correct? It's only $25 but I'm wondering if should I even trust this dealer - maybe they frequently try to sell unnecessary products and repairs. Or maybe selling engine oil additives is just a standard practice. Let me know what you think.
checked out their web site and found this gem

" It prevents engine oil oxidation and thickening under even the most intense driving conditions. When installed by a professional, it keeps engine components clean to help extend engine life and reduce cost of operation."

If there is concern with oxidation or thickening after a massive 2200 miles, perhaps the oil they are using is the problem.
Of course, since it's being "installed" by a professional it must be good.


.

2016 Soul Red CX-3 GT with technology package (Canadian specs)

Type: DOHC-16V in-line, 4-cylinder
Bore ◊ Stroke: 83.5 ◊ 91.2 mm (3.29 ◊ 3.59 in)
Displacement: 1,997.6 ml (1,997.6 cc)
Compression ratio: 13.0

Last edited by Dean; 10-03-2016 at 09:27 PM. Reason: added the link to their web site
Dean is online now  
post #3 of 9 Old 10-04-2016, 02:33 AM
Senior Member
 
Snoogie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Wisconsin, Madison
Posts: 234
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 56 Post(s)
Garage
I cannon speak for that dealership on their reasons for using such a product but I will say this: Here in Madison we are under the "severe" maintenance schedule as we have bad weather and bad traffic so we do a 4 month/5000 mi oil change interval. I have never sold or suggested using any oil additives especially on these new skyactiv engines (some products I can see being used on older engines) nor have any reason to as like mentioned by OP its kind of useless as anti-*insert market blurb here* are already present in said oil (we use Castrol products). I personally would not agree to using these oil additives as to me its unnecessary. I am also skeptical of these kinds of products because how can one product work well with so many different variants of oil additives already present in different brands of oil using different additives.

In my professional opinion as long as you use quality oil and do proper oil change intervals your engine will last you for quiet a while.

Certified Mazda Technician
Snoogie is offline  
 
post #4 of 9 Old 10-04-2016, 03:42 AM
Super Moderator
 
NotAPreppie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Chicago, IL, USA, North America, Earth, Sol System, Sector ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha, Milkyway, Universe
Posts: 526
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 140 Post(s)
Garage
I have never been offered any kind of engine oil additive before I started doing my own oil changes. Hell, even auto parts stores don't bother trying to offer me that.

It sounds like an upsell to me considering you can buy the product on Amazon.com for $15.
Cyclone1410 likes this.


2016 CX-3 GT iAS AWD, Soul Red Metallic on black
2017 MX-5 RF Launch Edition
2005 RX-8 Sport Sunlight Silver under Cone Rash (because racecar!) -- SOLD!

Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that belief can be preserved.
-Tim Minchin.
NotAPreppie is offline  
post #5 of 9 Old 10-04-2016, 01:15 PM
Senior Member
 
greaseman85's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 893
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 264 Post(s)
Garage
"When installed by professionals...."

LOL gotta love this, as if some non-professional "installs" this it won't work.

2016 Mazda CX-3 GT in Deep Crystal Blue on Parchment
greaseman85 is offline  
post #6 of 9 Old 10-04-2016, 02:37 PM
Super Moderator
 
anchorman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Derbyshire UK
Posts: 2,078
Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 483 Post(s)
Garage
I never use oil additives. The dealers make a lot of money out of these products. I'm not saying they are harmful but I can't say they do any good and certainly dont justify the cost.
Cyclone1410 and st3v3cx-3 like this.

Currently CX5 SportNav 2.2 diesel automatic and AWD.
Formerly CX3 SportNav 1.5 diesel automatic and AWD.

All advice is given in good spirit and taken entirely at the readers own risk. WORK SAFELY. ©2018 anchorman

ď.........and another thing"
anchorman is offline  
post #7 of 9 Old 10-04-2016, 05:58 PM
Senior Member
 
Geezer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Milton, Ontario Canada
Posts: 439
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 144 Post(s)
To me it sounds like another snake oil sales tactic. In a car that uses only synthetic oil it is probably about as useful as the electronic rust prevention gimmick that my dealer sells and will attach to the sheet metal (for a ridiculous price). It promises to prevent even one speck of rust showing up during the life of the car. Believe it and I can show you a bridge in Brooklyn that I'd love to sell you.

He who works with his hands is a Labourer. He who works with his hands and his head is a Craftsman. He who works with his hands, his head and his heart is an Artist. -St. Francis of Assisi

2016 Mazda CX3 GT Tech pkg. Soul Red.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Geezer is online now  
post #8 of 9 Old 10-04-2016, 06:13 PM Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Boston, MA USA
Posts: 7
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Caveat Emptor

Thanks all for the info and opinions - very helpful. I guess I cannot just trust the dealer to only recommend what is actually needed. Caveat emptor

2016 CX3 Sport
Boston, MA USA
mikm27 is offline  
post #9 of 9 Old 10-06-2016, 03:10 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 144
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 49 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Geezer View Post
To me it sounds like another snake oil sales tactic. In a car that uses only synthetic oil it is probably about as useful as the electronic rust prevention gimmick that my dealer sells and will attach to the sheet metal (for a ridiculous price). It promises to prevent even one speck of rust showing up during the life of the car. Believe it and I can show you a bridge in Brooklyn that I'd love to sell you.
I bought my son a 9 year old Explorer with the rust prevention thing on it. It was in pretty decent condition. I don't recall why, but for some reason I disconnected it. Within a year it was horribly rusty. Of course it might have been just as rusty had I left it connected. We will never know.

No dealer has ever offered it to me.
Toller is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome